Hotel Ronda - Barcelona

1.2

Hotel (???) fatiscente con camere piccole e rumorose sito in zona fortemente degradata ed insicura. Prezzo ben al di sopra dell'offerta, avvistati topi nella struttura.

8.8

Reception personal is very kindly. And Barcelona is wonderful city. Thank´s all.

2.6

The hotel is in the centre of the city, but in a very poor, degraded area. The staff was not very welcoming nor particularly helpful, and the bathroom in the room was dirty and even after the cleaners had gone in the following day it remained in the same condition. For the 60 euros a night that this cost (+10 euros a day parking), we were not satifsfied with the experience.

4.8

Very Average

9.2

Vous devez prendre la bonne rue pour vous y rendre; le quartier est non recommandable.

8.4

Overall, a very nice hotel with basic accomodations. Room was very clean. Walls were thin and noise a little high, but similiar to other hotels. Location was within easy walking distance to most attactions.

8.6

Price/Quality excellent and two minutes walks from St.Antoni metro stop. This hotel is ideal for people with few demands and just need a bed.

5.6

Nice hotel but less than we expected

3.5

I cannot understand how this hotel got 3 stars on the first place. I have been to hostels that have been better than this hotel and definitely cleaner. The toilet had the "disinfect anted" sign on it, but when i checked it was dirty: it had sh.t marks all over. I did not want to seat on it as for sure it was full of germs. Also my sheets had a hole on them and in the closet there was only one blanket and one pillow available and it was a 2 single-beds room. It was cold during the night and my brother let the blanket to me and he got frozen. What kind of 3 stars hotel is this?!? They were also cheap on the soap bars and toilet paper!!!Ok, the price was low and even if in internet had written that it was a hostel i might would still choose to go due to the price, but it would be my choice and i would at least had known what to expect.

6.8

Inacceptable, no breakfast included!!

8.4

OTTIMA UBICAZIONE.VICINO A DUE LINEE DI METROPOLITANA ED A "LA RAMBLA". PERSONALE CORTESE E DISPONIBILE. CAMERE NON PARTICOLARMENTE SILENZIOSE. BAGNO PULITO.

7.9

I saw some negative comments about Hotel Ronda, but I was perfectly happy with the place. The off-night rate was reasonable and I got a good, solid room for the money. It was a little noisy (wood floors, thin walls), but there wasn't much going on to bother me so that was fine. While I didn't investigate this in advance, it turned out to have incredibly easy access to the airport via bus and easy walking access to some prime Barcelona avenues.

8.4

The hotel was extremely difficult to find. We drove passed it several times before realizing that it was located in the far left corner outside the plaza. That was even after we had been on the cell phone several times with the desk clerk who was giving directions.

2.0

Triple Room very small and hotel too expensive for the services and room quality offered.

1.6

I was charged in advance. First time in my life. I don`t recommend this hotel to anybody. The room was the dirtiest place where I have been...

0.4

Accueil déplorable, employées en dessous de tout. Mensonge quant à la présence de parking (10 pl seulement) Localisation excentrée.

2.1

The rooms were very noisy through out the whole night. Trash and dirty brooms were left in the hall way right out side the elevator. The front desk staff was very sweet and checking in and out went smoothly. The area was nice during the day but come dusk it wasn't a good area to be walking in.

5.5

It was thw first time in Hotel Ronda in Barcellona. The bathroom was clean. The bed wasn't confortable. We couldn't control air conditioning in the room.

7.5

Before to arrive at the hotel, I asked by mail if we can have an additional bed in our room. They asked affermative, but when we arrive they sayed it was not possible. They give excellent support to find a room in an other hotel.

1.1

hotel situato nel chinatown di barcelona (puzze e rumori vari),luogo molto malfamato, troppo rumore durante la notte compresso raccolta rifiuti alle 2:00,troppo caro,poca igiene e € 10 per una colazione veramente scarsa! ma dove c.... siamo!!!

6.9

Nice hotel for a nice price. Very clean. It has only one disadvantage. Breakfast is available but not very tasty en very expensive (€10 per person).Better take breakfast in a local bar. Personnel is friendly but they could have a better look at the people entry of the hotel. One could enter the hotel and not been recognized. So, everyone not registered could go inside and won't be noticed by the staff.

6.4

The location of the hotel is well. The metro station is only a view steps away. Our room was very small and the quiteness was bad. In the night we heard every person who walked on our floor so that we couldn't sleep very well.

1.1

Worst hotel ever stayed in. In a back alley with kids kicking a ball around till late evening. Scooters and locals in the alleys all night. Basic of basic hotel with no remote for tv, no tea making facilities or anything. Bath which only a midget could fit into. Balcony (in back lane) backed onto residential balconies which we noisy all night. Over price. AVOID AT ALL COSTS.

5.6

The OK is OK, but price is too high for it

2.1

We were told that cats were allowed online (a mistake), and when we showed up with our cat there was an awkward moment. Eventually, we agreed that they'd let us stay "for now" and we'd look for alternate accommodation. When we found alternate accommodation and tried to check out 3 days early (per their original request), they insisted on charging us for the 3 nights that we did not stay there. The double room was quaint, but tiny. The front desk service was good, but the owner of the hotel was persistently contradictory. We ended up filing a claim against the credit card company requesting a refund since the hotel refused. In addition, a group of approximately 20 young people (age 13-15) showed up and the quality of the walls was immediately apparent since we could hear everything from our room. On the last day of our stay, when we were checking out with 6 bags from the top floor, the elevator was broken.

5.6

Were woken by drilling and hammering outside our window on 1st morning due to construction work taking place at hotel. After complaining we were moved to another room which was better, however on 2nd morning repairs started on the building in front! Room was basic, but very clean, beds with foam mattresses, little wardrobe space,thin walls, but shower was excellent. Hotel staff were predominantly Oriental and particularly unfriendly in the restaurant at breakfast. We went at beg. of March and there were a lot of other young couples there. The location of hotel is in a side street which was very noisy of an evening until the very small hours! It was close to the Metro, walking distance to Las Ramblas/Plaza Catalunya and a variety of nearby bars, restaurants to choose from. Generally a no frills hotel, but great proximity to other areas and price was reasonable. Take your earplugs tho!

2.3

The hotel was quoted 3 stars but it is a 2 stars. During a stay some young people were staying at the hotel and they did party inside a room (they were 20 people in the room 302)until 2 am thursday and friday night! And nobody of the employees came to quiet down! I think it is very scandalous, because inside the hotel it must be quiet!

8.4

We would stay here again. Great value for money, the staff were friendly and spoke good english. Location is great, close to la ramblas although surrounding streets of hotel seem dodgy they aren't too bad. Only problem was the amount of noise during the night.

7.3

Guests coming in at all hours making too much noise. Staff needed to keep them quiet really. Overall though very good.

5.9

The stay was good, sufficient. The hotel is good to visit Barcellona in two or three days. Not for stay too many days.

3.1

the pictures on web was absolutely different... low quality not so cheep... the bed is horrible and it was impossible to find tv remote control....

8.9

Excellent service provided by the staff.

4.9

Pulizia scarsa, mediocre; camere non ristrutturate, vecchie; la colazione è passata da 1 giorno all'altro da 6 a 10 euro senza alcun preavviso; buffet scarso come varietà in rapporto al prezzo: frutta non di stagione e pesche sciroppate a Barcellona!!! Sala ristorante e colazione scrostata con lavori in corso, da finire.

5.4

Fine if you want somewhere cheap which is fairly near to the Ramblas. The hallways and fire escape routes leave a lot to be desired. It was very, very noisy at night with groups of people hanging around outside until the early hours (3 - 4am) of the morning. I wouldn't stay there again, despite the fact it is reasonably priced - so I suppose that says it all!

2.7

Not value for money, situated in slightly seedy area.

7.1

The hotel was fine and close to some main areas. There were lots of street workers in the area and some shady folks hanging around but they did not bother you if you ignore them.

4.1

Das Hotel ist mit den herkömmlichen Stadtplänen fast nicht zu finden. Das Zimmer war sauber, jedoch mit Fenster in den Innenhofschacht der ziemlich laut war. Das Hotel zeichnet sich nur durch die Nähe zur Rambla aus und wird von mir und meiner Begleitung sicher nicht mehr gebucht.

5.4

The location of the hotel is misleading since it is on secondary street, and the hotel photo show it as on the main street.

6.5

The room was poor of furniture (only 1 chair and a small table for 3 persons)

5.9

Good accomodation if you travel with a group of friends: rooms are clean and quite new, a very good offer for the price you pay, but the surroundings of the hotel are not very nice, with some 'walking' girls on the street. If you look for an accomodation for a romantic weekend with your girlfriend look for something else.

4.1

nessuno alla reception parlava italiano e poco l'inglese.il water aveva problemi di acqua. la strada dove si trovano le camere è mal frequentata e rumorosa tutta la notte fino al mattino. alcuni ragazzi completamente ubriachi entravano e uscivano dall'albergo dal pomeriggio fino a notte fonda, bussando alle porte senza che nessuno li abbia fermati.

8.3

Hotel pulito, personale gentile e disponibile, ma soprattutto posizione fantastica: centrale ed a pochi minuti a piedi dalla Rambla, con numerosa diponibilità di mezzi nelle immediate vicinanze (metrò e bus, compreso il bus dall'aeroporto), il posto ideale per chi vuole visitare Barcellona e vivere anche le notti. Le "signorine" che si trovano lungo le stradi centrali di Barcellona, e quindi nei dintorni dell'hotel, non creano alcun problema, anzi risultano caratteristiche del luogo, inoltre la zona risulta molto tranquilla anche per la continua presenza delle forze dell'ordine 24 ore su 24 . Consigliamo vivamente l'hotel. Se dovessimo tornare a Barcellona di sicuro torneremo in tale struttura. PS)Per quanto riguarda la colazione, è a pagamento, ma non consigliamo di farla in hotel poichè nei dintorni ci sono numerosi bar in cui abbuffarsi con poca spesa.

8.2

I was very pleased with our stay at Ronda, alothough the rooms had very thin walls, it didnt seem to be a problem. I thought for what we paid the quality was very good. Would happily stay again.

6.4

The hotel was adequate, its situation not brilliant. It was fine for us, as we just slept there - all our waking time was spent out in the city.

6.5

The Employees in Hotel Ronda are very unfriendly and desireless. The service was bad. I can only recommend this hotel when you look for a cheap accommodation. Die Angestellten des Hotels Ronda sind sehr unfreundlich und lustlos, nicht mal der Hotelmanager lässt sich am Morgen zu einem Gruß herab. Der Service ist insgesamt schlecht. Dieses Hotel empfehle ich nur wenn Sie nach einer relativ günstigen Unterkunft suchen.

7.2

L'atmosfera che si respira nell'albergo e' un po' triste, e nelle stanze le pareti non isolano acusticamente, per cui si sentono i rumori prodotti dagli altri. E' vicinissimo alla metropolitana, ma la zona in cui si trova, pur essendo centrale, non mi e' sembrata molto tranquilla. Sono impressioni di un fine settimana.

2.7

TOO MUCH EXPENSIVE FOR THIS TYPE OF HOTEL!!! ROOMS VERY BAD....SMALL AND SOME OF THEM WITHOUT WINDOWS TO SEE OUTSIDE!!!

6.8

ottimo x chi vuole spendere poco e rimanere nelle vicinanze del centro.

2.2

Breakfast was old, we did not eat at all, all drinks were watery and food were shoddy.

8.3

It was excellent value for money, basic but clean rooms. Good breakfast. Would use the hotel again.

9.3

the lock of restroom in 414 is broken, plz fix it!

8.4

The hotel is comfortable and has a good location, 10 minutes walking from the centre of the city. Rooms are big, breakfast is good, nice the staff. The only bad thing is that in the evening there is many noise and not nice people out of the hotel, so we were afraid to come back late in the night. Excellent relationship between price and quality.

7.1

Typical of about 100 other hotels in the area/Italy. Just the basic no frills accomodations. If you routinely stay at the Hilton, you won't be happy here. But if you are not rich, and don't expect room service, this hotel is great. The breakfast was better than received at other hotels in the area.

3.9

Hotel triste, laid, tout juste propre avec un personnel peu aimable ... et situé dans un quartier sale et bruyant ou règne de jour comme de nuit la prostitution ... Je l'avais choisi pour sa situation centrale près de la place de Catalunya et son tarif compétitif ... mais ce fut une erreur. Le stationnement est impossible ... et le tarif du parking de l'hôtel (18 euros hors taxes par jour) plus que prohibitif ! Hôtel à éviter! ... ne faisant pas honneur à Barcelone

8.5

This is a very good tourist class hotel. price worth. Excellent breakfast, renovated rooms are in a very good condition and clean. LOCATION...... the very center starts just 3 blocks ahead, but YOU HAVE TO SURVIVE THESE 3 BLOCKS through prostitutes and marocans and other "creams" which, however is very common just around any corner outside the very center.

3.6

THE HELPFULNESS OF THE STAFF WAS THE ONLY SAVING GRACE FOR HOTEL RONDA. THE HOTELS - 'PAY FULL BILL AT CHECK IN' RULE IS A FIRST AND A NUISANCE, MANAGEMENT ARE NOT VERY KEEN TO ADMIT WHEN THEY'RE WRONG EITHER. THE BATHROOM WAS DIRTY, AS WERE THE TOWLELS AND OUTSIDE THERE WERE PROS******* GALORE!! WE HAD COME FOR A NICE FAMILY HOLIDAY - IT WAS DISGUSTING AND VERY UPSETTING TO SEE ALL THEIR GOINGS ON RIGHT OUTSIDE THE HOTEL, AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY. IT RUINED THE HOLIDAY FOR US. THERE WAS NO MENTION OF THIS SEEDY SIDE IN THE BROCHURE!! AS A CONSEQUENCE - I WOULD NOT RECCOMMEND THIS HOTEL TO ANYONE - UNLESS THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR....

9.0

Sorry, can't rate accurately only stayed for a short time here. I wish we stayed longer I like the city of Barcelona, we like to go back someday. Rhonda hotel is in a convenient location walking distance to shops and places of interests.

7.0

Good-sized clean and airconditioned room. Central location with most viewable places in walking distance. Parking in hotel for 20€ per day. Payment has to be made upfront (incl. parking). Staff also wants you to leave your car keys at reception (for emergencies). Only way round it is to leave your mobile number. I wasn't called. Very difficult to get there by car, access restricted by system of one-way roads, with none of them leading to the hotel. Ask at reception for best way to get to hotel. In summary, difficult access, demanding payment methods, but very good value for money.

5.7

L'albergo è una buona base per visitare Barcellona, ma è situato quasi al limite di una zona malfamata. Nel raggio di circa 50 metri erano presenti giorno e notte molte prostitute. Vista la presenza erano soventi le retate della polizia spagnola.

8.5

Excellent sejour dans un hotel bien situe a proximite des ramblas, du quartier gothique et du MACBA. L'hotel est propre et calme, avec un parking public tres proche (celui de l'hotel était saturé). Seule faiblesse: le café,plus cher et moins bon que dans le café voisin, mais c'est souvent le cas dans les hotels !

8.1

We had wonderful six days in Barcelona at the hotel Ronda. Hotel's location was excellent and the neighbourhood was original and interesting - still missing our morning cigarettes with locals at the small "plaza" next to the hotel. Neighbourhood's "working girls" were patient and caused us no harm. Hotel's breakfast wasn't any gourmet-experience, but got us started and kept us going for a while. And it was included in to the room price! We definitely recommend this hotel and we are willing to stay there again. Don't miss nice restaurants and bars at C/Carme and C/Hospital! Raval rules and keeps getting better =)!!! -Doris&Julle

7.4

Easy to find. Staff was a bit indifferent. Room was a little tight around the bed area. A little noisy at night but not a big deal. There is some working girls on the street just outside the front door but overall it is a good deal for the budget traveler.

7.8

The location was great - within walking distance to most sites and there was a metro stop very close also. The room was simple yet comfortable. There were quite a few prostitutes (or just ladies waiting for the bus!) around, but it did not bother us all that much - it didn't feel unsafe.

9.1

The hotel was in a central location close to all the attractions. The room size was also quite reasonable and the staff was very helpful and friendly. Breakfast was included and it was everything that you require.In short it was value for money.

7.5

The position was wonderful and the neighbours were quiet except for the last evening (Monday!)Take a kettle and iron with you and possibly some cups. Everything worked fine. The worst point was the 89 stairs which would be too much for someone who is not fit! There are now two full sets of keys and the owner was very helpful to give me another set as most of the keys did not work in the locks. Sofa has many stains. Lovely balcony.

9.5

the price paid for our stay at the ronda was very competitive. the room was large neat and spacious and the biggest asset of this hotel would be its very warm and accomodating staff. breakfast was very filling and complete. the hotel is very accessible to the ramblas and the shops and means of transportation as well. except for trying to take a shortcut on the backstreets after midnight, this hotel is highly recommended.

5.4

as I stated in my complain to the management of the hotel, the room was not cleaned at all during 3 days, only the beds were made and the garbages were taken out, the bed linens had holes in it....I would not recommend the hotel unless it is the last resort.........

7.8

Bon rapport qualité/prix. j'avais réservé pour 3 personnes; la chambre était équipée de 3 vrais lits. Petit déjeuner compris, copieux et varié. Garage pour 18€ par jour. Seul problème: trouver l'hotel (seule l'entrée est visible dans un coin d'une petite place, il faut bien regarder....Le soir, le quartier derrière l'hotel est à éviter si on a des enfants...à cause des dames qui y travaillent....Dans l'ensemble bon hotel relativement bien placé.

9.0

I would stay there again.Moderably quiet, good breakfast, close to the city

4.7

Several things annoyed us. i had asked for a quiet room as my wife is pregnant, so they put us next to a service elevator. Also one night some guests in the room above were having a party, we were unable to sleep until my wife rang reception at 3.00 am. You had to pay for your entire stay at check in (i wonder why??) You had to pay a 20 Euro deposit for the remote control for the romm TV. There were prostitues on every street corner in the surrounding area after dark. Friends of ours booked a three star hotel in Playa de Catalonia (5mins away) and there was no comparison-they had free wine and sanwiches each night in a luxurious lobby. I wouldn't have minded but at over £100 per night Ronda wasn't exactly cheap. One saving grace was the staff who were friendly,polite and welcoming.

9.0

3 night stay, staff very helpful good breakfast,good location for sightseeing.The only small problem for us was that the beds with foam matresses were a little on the hard side. Would stay again.

8.5

The hotel is good value for money but nothing special. Staff are very helpful!! The location is fairly central and close to shopping/drinking/eating etc, may need taxis sometimes as the city is so big! Surrounding area a bit seedy but safe enough, we were worried about the area but when we got there we had no trouble at all!

8.4

Not the most spacious rooms but very clean and adequate for the budget traveller. Considering the price, the hotel was very centrally located just a brisk 5 minute walk to las ramblas. I would stay there again.

6.1

I was very disappointed to discover that the main road leading to the hotel was FULL of prostitutes...the surrounds were awful to say the least. The second room we occupied (we had to move from the 1st one because it was unbearably hot) faced the back of some poverty sticken buildings where people yelled and screamed through the night (we had to keep the window open because it would have been too hot otherwise). I find it ridiculous that an extra €4 were charged for the safe seeing that the room wasn't inexpensive to start with. Walking around the city, there were many three-star hotels that were MUCH nicer. The hotel itself is situated between two small, ugly back streets. I was extremely disappointed! I also found it highly unusual that the rooms had to be paid for upon arrival...

6.5

Das Hotel liegt wenige Meter vom Strassenstrich entfernt und untermalt den abendlichen Spaziergang zu einem ungemütlichen Spießrutenlauf !! Ansonsten schön zentral gelegen und mit guter Anbindung an das Metro Netz !!

9.6

Very comfortable, excellent staff, and easy location near metro. Nearby tapas restaurant is great for late night arrivals.

9.5

The rooms are spacious and cleaned,our had also a really nice balcony.The breakfast was excellent.Receptionists competent and friendly. Overall really good. If you are looking for a budget accomodation with comforts this is a perfect place. Easy connections to all mayor attractions!! We will definitely go back!

7.5

Noise insulation improvement would be welcome (bathroom, corridor)

5.9

Rooms too small

9.5

The price I paid for the service and the location of this hotel was a real good deal, being at a ten minute walk from The Ramblas and the starting points of the tour busses.

9.1

Maybe there are better hotels in Barcelona, but this one is very good located and has an excellent cost/quality ratio. Everything as promised, tasty breakfasts included in the price and nice staff. I would stay here again.

6.6

The rooms are small but reasonable. The maids did not wash glasses or tidy up much, they just make the beds and do the bathroom. Breakfast could be a bit better. Otherwise okay, except if there is any noise in the rest of the hotel, you do hear it.

9.6

I stayed at the Ronda with my family (triple room, last floor, maybe it was that quiet therefore) and it was a very nice and pleasant stay.-None of the things posted by some earlier customers (noisy, bad sorrounding etc.) came true in our case, so we can really recommend the hotel to everyone.Very clean, very friendly and competent staff, very good breakfast and convenient location!Price/quality-relationship is really excellent.

7.5

Hotel Ronda is a good choice if you wish to stay in Barcalona on a budget, It is well situated if you want to be near the busy Ramblas, the down-side to this is that the streets around the hotel can become a little 'seedy' come nightfall, safety in numbers, that's what i say! The breakfast was very good with everybodies taste catered for. It is true what they say about Barcalona, beware of pickpockets, in our four day stay we saw it happen twice! Despite this we still had a great city break.

5.0

The area near the hotel is not very nice for different reasons: though it is not dangerous if you are in group and it is always crowded, there are prostitutes and not very nice people around. Anyway the Hotel stay has been ok because the quality of service was sufficent. The relationship between price/quality is not competitive with other hotels in the city. We won't come back.

6.8

In general I quite enjoyed my stay. The price/quality ratio is okay. Only the noise within the rooms is loud, you can hear what is happening in the room next door and you always know when someone is using the bathroom.

7.4

Room did not have a view, on second thought I should have asked for it to be changed. Reception staff were excellent and spoke good english. Breakfast was very good with a good variety. My only concern was the area, at around 7.30 in the evening it turned into the red light district, although they did seem well behaved and I did not see them bothering people, however it was off putting.

9.1

the stay was really pleasant, especially the breakfast was very ample Thanks

7.9

Close to all the sights we wanted. Rooms clean and tidy. Air con what a relief. Would recommend the hotel to my friends.

8.5

tried to book again site not available when i looked. tried web info only in spanish. Would stay again if we can get booked in over internet

6.5

Location is not that great, even though Ramblas, Catalunya and even Espanya are within walking distance; it was a bit seedy. Paying on arrival was our only such experience in 6 different places on our trip to Spain. Breakfast is included, and it was quite excellent. Usage of the safe deposit box, on the other hand, was for additional 4 euros a night. Interestingly, water in the bathroom did not run if you did not turn on the light. We could not make the thermostat do anything, although the fan in the bathroom kept turning on as if on motion detector. Overall, this hotel is probably adequate, but we were not terribly pleased.

8.0

rooms are very small but clean . walls are very thick so you can hear noise from other rooms but it's not that bad.breakfast was ok. location was great ( 10 meanutes walking to catelunya and rambla ,2 meanutes to metro station).i would defently recomend this hotel to ones that money is an issue for them.

7.6

A typical tourist /student hotel with a good selfservice breakfast.

6.1

Our double room was very small with a tiny bathroom where it was hard just to turn around. Also, there were no hooks nor shelves in the bathroom.

8.9

A great hotel with lovely spacious well appointed rooms. Good value for money.

9.1

The hotel was very good value for money. the staff were extremely efficient and the breakfast was excellent. The waitresses constantly cleared and replenished food. The only problem we had was that the room was exceedingly warm at night and when we enquired about the air con we were informed that it wasn't available as it is winter!

8.0

We hed a pleasant stay accept for the loud geusts at night

8.6

Continental breakfast choice - excellent with croissants,sliced bread, muffins, cold meats, cheese, fruit, cereal , fruit juice, tea & coffee, eat/drink as much as you like. Would have appreciated tea/coffee making facilities in room not a common facility in Europe, but we took our own travel kettle etc. Very good value for money accommodation, and would recommend to all. Position of hotel, nr aerobus drop off point, and pick up point for Touristic bus, metro and Pl. de Catyluna -but you had to walk thro'part of the red light district to reach the Ramblas which I thought would be intimidating but they understand the word NO!! All in all, very pleased with my choice - as last year in Barcelona stayed in a much more expensive hotel with less stars which in comparison could now only in comparison VERY basic!!! and there is a very useful lift.

6.3

The eating area lacked invite, character. The atmosphere was devoid of spirit, welcome. Not the kind of place to lounge in or bring someone into for company or a chat. I wouldn´t eat there.

7.6

Breakfast was poor and the car park difficult to find and manoeuvre.